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Quem não se lembra do polêmico Sepulcro Esquecido de Jesus ou Tumba de Talpiot?
Aquela era a Tumba A de Talpiot. Pois agora a polêmica ressurge com a Tumba B de Talpiot. E Tabor e Jacobovici. Se a Tumba A era a da “família de Jesus”, a Tumba B é vista por eles como a de “seguidores de Jesus”.
E um livro: TABOR, J. D.; JACOBOVICI, S. The Jesus Discovery: The New Archaeological Find That Reveals the Birth of Christianity. New York: Simon & Schuster, 2012, 274 p. – ISBN 9781451650402.
Pois então leia:
Simcha Jacobovici – aquele do Sepulcro Esquecido de Jesus, The Lost Tomb of Jesus, ou Tumba de Talpiot, de 2007 – afirma que dois cravos encontrados em um tumba em Jerusalém podem ter sido usados na crucificação de Cristo, hipótese que foi criticada e causou polêmica entre especialistas em arqueologia. Há consenso entre os biblioblogueiros de que este é mais um “achado” pseudoarqueológico, talvez comprado ali no ferro-velho da esquina… It is the consensus amongst expert bloggers is that Simcha Jacobovici’s claims about “The Nails of the Cross” are dubious…
Joe Zias- ‘More Amazing Dis-Grace- The JESUS NAILS: The Naked Truth vs. The Naked Archaeologist’ – Jim West: Zwinglius Redivivus 19/04/2011 · 06:41
Milton Nascimento visita Casa de Portinari em Brodowski
“O cantor Milton Nascimento vai buscar em Portinari a inspiração para uma canção. O compositor, que se apresentará nas aberturas de exposições do pintor no Rio de Janeiro e em Paris, visita o museu Casa de Portinari, em Brodowski, nesta quarta-feira (9), e encontra o filho do pintor, João Candido, fundador e coordenador do Projeto Portinari, no Rio de Janeiro (…) A aproximação de Milton Nascimento e Candido Portinari surgiu no final do ano passado, após o convite de João Candido para que o cantor se apresentasse durante as inaugurações das exposições dos painéis “Guerra e Paz”, no Theatro Municipal do Rio de Janeiro e, em seguida, em Paris, previstas para o segundo semestre. Para fazer a escolha por Milton, João Candido viu uma identidade entre a trajetória pessoal e artística do cantor e a de seu pai, com uma temática diversificada, mas sempre emocionada e solidária ao drama e à poesia do ser humano. Ambos também são de origem humilde, do interior e os dois artistas alcançaram destaque nacional e internacional por meio de sua arte. Após o convite, Milton passou a conhecer ainda mais sobre a história do artista de Brodowski e logo se encantou com o que ouviu sobre a casa que foi lar de Portinari e sobre o carinho para com seus familiares deixado nas paredes em forma de pintura – destaque para a Capela da Nonna, pintada para a avó adoentada. Foi do cantor a ideia de conhecer o local. Logo no início da visita desta quarta-feira, o cantor irá ao Seminário Arquidiocesano Maria Imaculada, onde está uma tela de Portinari pouco conhecida, batizada de “Santa Cecília”, justamente a padroeira da música. Ali haverá também uma missa de sétimo dia em memória do pai de Milton, Josino Nascimento, falecido na semana passada”.
Fonte: EPTV.com
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Quem não se lembra do polêmico Sepulcro Esquecido de Jesus ou Tumba de Talpiot?
Pois então leia em The Bible and Interpretation:
Talpiot Dethroned
We have noted that a number of scholars have misstated facts in analyzing the statistics of the tomb. We also acknowledge that despite these errors, the Talpiot tomb might not be the Jesus family tomb. Nevertheless, an analysis on the calculations of the names in the tomb should at least be accurate and based on acceptable statistical methods.
By Kevin Kilty, Department of Physics and Engineering LCCC, Wyoming. With Mark Elliott, Editor, Bible and Interpretation – January 2010
Começa a Semana Santa [Holy Week], o tema da Paixão de Cristo é oportuno.
Pois Mark Goodacre foi convidado pela BBC para ser o consultor histórico da série The Passion [A Paixão], que a emissora inglesa, em coprodução com a HBO, começa a apresentar hoje.
Mark Goodacre tem competência de sobra para a função: é especialista em Novo Testamento e acompanha filmes e documentários bíblicos com paixão, com o perdão do trocadilho.
Vale a pena acompanhar, através do NT Gateway Weblog, do Mark, os acontecimentos que envolvem esta série. Inclusive a polêmica gerada pela posição alternativa de Jesus na cruz. Posição defendida por Mark Goodacre, criticada por outros, como o Sunday Telegraph.
Para as datas de apresentação veja o Episode Guide.
Acompanhe a partir de 27 de fevereiro os diários de viagem de Mark Goodacre em Passion Première: Travel Diary I e seguintes. Mark é inglês, mora e leciona na Universidade Duke, nos EUA, e foi a Londres para este trabalho.
Estão lembrados da controvérsia?
É só reler A controvertida Tumba de Talpiot e Tumba de Talpiot: a controvérsia continua.
E ir para Rebutting Sensational Claims Concerning a Symposium in Jerusalem. De J. H. Charlesworth.
No site do SBL Forum. Leia.
Depois de tanto bafafá [veja aqui sinônimos], em 2004, causado pelo filme A Paixão de Cristo, aí está, no noticiário, de novo, Mel Gibson e sua paixão…
Deviam chamar Pilatos para julgar o caso.
Roteirista de “A Paixão de Cristo” processa Mel Gibson por má-fé
Um dos roteiristas de “A Paixão de Cristo”, dirigido por Mel Gibson, decidiu processar o ator e diretor por não ter recebido uma “justa compensação” por seu trabalho na produção.
Benedict Fitzgerald, que escreveu o roteiro do filme junto com Gibson, está pedindo US$ 5 milhões ( R$ 8,8 milhões) na ação que abriu nesta segunda-feira na Suprema Corte de Los Angeles, informa o site da revista “People”.
Fitzgerald acusa Gibson de fraude, descumprimento de contrato e práticas de negócio injustas.
“Ben foi uma vítima (…) de Gibson, que se aproveitou da paixão desenfreada pelo projeto e das crenças pessoais e espirituais do roteirista”, diz o processo.
Fitzgerald alega que, além de “enganado”, foi vítima de “táticas conspiratórias” forjadas por Gibson, que havia lhe assegurado que o filme seria um projeto pequeno, de entre US$ 4 milhões (cerca de R$ 7 milhões) e US$ 7 milhões (cerca de R$ 12,3 milhões), e não daria lucro.
No entanto, “A Paixão de Cristo” se tornou um dos maiores sucessos de bilheteria de 2004, com mais de US$ 600 milhões (cerca de R$ 1 bilhão) arrecadados ao redor do mundo.
Fitzgerald diz que cobrou US$ 75 mil (R$ 132 mil) por seu trabalho e que teve que pedir a Gibson outros US$ 200 mil (R$ 352 mil) emprestados para pagar despesas.
Fonte: Folha Online – 12/02/2008
Stephen Pfann, em The View from Jerusalem, faz hoje um apanhado da abordagem da Conferência de Jerusalém sobre a Tumba de Talpiot pela mídia que, como se vê, não combina com as posturas dos participantes do evento.
The Media and Three Surveys by the Tomb Symposium Participants
Assessment of the Facts: The Media and Three Surveys by the Tomb Symposium Participants
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The Third Princeton Symposium on Judaism and Christian Origins
“Jewish Views of the After Life and Burial Practices in Second Temple Judaism
Evaluating the Talpiot Tomb in Context”
Jan 13-16, 2008 in Mishkenot Sha’ananim, Jerusalem
An initial assessment of the results of the recent Symposium which was published by the media was quickly rejected by most of the Symposium participants. Most of the media assessments gave a general statement about the conclusions drawn by the “50” participants as a whole. (See conference list of presentations for the participants.)
“Although most of those who spoke at yesterday’s seminar said it was possible the tomb was that of Jesus, Jacobovici’s film was taken with a grain of salt.” Haaretz
“The gathering of world scholars, which some had expected would conclude by dismissing claims linking the tomb to Jesus, wound up inconclusively, but with wide-ranging agreement that the matter required further investigation.” Jerusalem Post
“Until now, international perception of the academic consensus has been that the Talpiot tomb ‘could not be’ the Jesus family tomb. In contrast, 50 of the top scholars in the world now concluded that the Talpiot tomb ‘might very possibly be’ the tomb of the ‘Holy family.’” Marketwire
“Experts Split on Supposed Jesus Tomb: The conference ended with no firm conclusions and with experts divided on the likelihood of the tomb containing Jesus’s family. Charlesworth has not made up his own mind.” United Press International
“After three days of fierce debate, the experts remained deeply divided.” Time Magazine
At times the media became more specific and gave personal statements about the tomb’s historical significance made by individual participants, including the symposium’s chair James Charlesworth (Time), the Jerusalem district archaeologist at the time Amos Kloner (JPost), the tomb’s draftsperson Shimon Gibson (JPost, Haaretz), and historian Israel Knohl (Haaretz).
Simcha Jacobovici’s press representative J9 Communications (see Jim West’s posting on this) singled out a group of four who, they say, had ascertained the identification of the Tomb with Jesus as being “likely”:
“Although some academics continue to deny the possibility, leading New Testament scholars such as Professor Jane Schaberg (Mercy), Professor Claude Cohen-Matlofsky (University of Toronto), Israel Knohl (Hebrew University) and Professor James Tabor (University of North Carolina at Charlotte) all indicated that they thought it was ‘likely’ that the Talpiot tomb was indeed the lost tomb of Jesus.”
(However, the assertions of this report do not at all match the actual statements of Israel Knohl and Jane Schaberg(and not exactly James Tabor) found in the “Fair Representation” survey published in View from Jerusalem).
Three surveys launched by the symposium participants themselves
A large number of participants in the symposium felt disappointed in the media’s portrayal of their view concerning the connection of the Tomb on Dov Grunner St. in the East Talpiot district of Jerusalem to Jesus of Nazareth and his family. In response, they decided to speak out for themselves.
The Fair Representation letter solicited and received the personal statements from a number of participants. The value of this collection is that it allowed the participants to provide a more individualized response, free from the interpretation of the media and the limitations of the general statement.
Two general statements have been published by participants of the symposium:
One general statement was drafted by Professors Jodi Magness and Eric Meyers with the participation of a number of the other participants. The strength of this general statement is that it involved a range of issues treated by an overall group of participants and brought together the signatures of a number of participants who did not find the need to publish their own personal statements.
A general statement by the symposium steering commitee was published on the Princeton Seminary web site. This is valuable since it becomes the official statement by the administration of the Symposium, chaired by Prof. James Charlesworth with D. Mendels, M. Aviam, G. Mazor, S. Gibson and D. Bahat.
A number of participants also provided a more lengthy version of their own statements through their own blogs (or as guests on other blogs), including April DeConick, Stephen Pfann, Christopher Rollston, James Tabor and Joe Zias. If the 25 or so statements (both personal and signatories for general statements) of participants thus far, can be taken to be a fair sampling . . .
The experts are not “split” or “deeply divided” over the issue that the Talpiot Tomb is that of Jesus of Nazareth. Let us be clear on this and to which degree the participants would entertain the possibility of being so.
Who believes that the Talpiot Tomb is actually both the Tomb of Jesus of Nazareth and also his family?
The most positive statement for the tomb being that of Jesus of Nazareth and his family comes from James Tabor who is “convinced that the Talpiot tomb is possibly, and even likely, the family tomb of Jesus of Nazareth”.
Who believes that the Talpiot Tomb is not the Tomb of Jesus of Nazareth but is that of his family or members of the Jesus movement?
According to his public statement at the end of the conference, although James Charlesworth denies that this could be the Tomb of Jesus, he “can’t dismiss the possibility that this tomb was related to the Jesus clan.”
Jane Schaberg stated “In my judgement, the tomb is not the tomb of the family or dynasty of Jesus, but perhaps of important members of the movement.” (including Mary Magdalene)
Among those who remain unconvinced that this tomb is related in any way to Jesus of Nazareth, who would be at least encourage further study of the possibility?
Israel Knohl is not convinced of any of it, since the fact that more evidence is needed encourages further study. “I am not convinced that the Talpiot tomb is that of the family of Jesus. This is a possibility that should be explored with more evidence. ”
Others remain pessimistic:
Geza Vermes (Second Temple historian) stated “Apart from a handful of participants, the large majority of the assembled scholars consider the theory that the Talpiot ossuaries contained the remains of Jesus of Nazareth and his family as unlikely after the conference as it has been before. In my historical judgment, the matter is, and in the absence of substantial new evidence, should remain closed.
Shimon Gibson (archaeologist) stated “In my estimation what came out of the Symposium is that there is no evidence – historical, archaeological, epigraphic, scientific (in terms of DNA and patina studies), architectural/artistic or otherwise – to support the idea that the Talpiot tomb was the family tomb of Jesus. . . . I also repudiate the claim made by the film-makers of “The Lost Tomb of Jesus” that the Symposium had in any way vindicated their argument. In fact, the opposite is true and scholars were hard-pressed to find any evidence supporting the notion of a Jesus family tomb at Talpiot.”
André Lemaire (epigrapher) stated “On the whole, it seems clear enough to me not only that the identification of the Talpiot tomb as the family tomb of Jesus is not probable or even likely but that it is very improbable.”
Christopher Rollston (prosopographer and epigrapher) stated “it is not methodologically tenable to posit that this Talpiyot tomb can be considered the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth.”
Rachel Hachlili (archaeologist and expert on family tombs) stated “The East Talpiyot tomb could not be identified with a tomb of Jesus of Nazareth for a significant reason …”
Stephen Pfann (epigrapher and historian): “I don’t believe there is any case, even remotely, that can be convincingly made for this being the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth and his family.”
The Princeton general statement of the Symposium steering committee (made by J.H. Charlesworth (chair), D. Mendels, M. Aviam, G. Mazor, S. Gibson, D. Bahat) stated: “‘Most archaeologists, epigraphers, and other scientists argued persuasively that there is no reason to conclude that the Talpiot Tomb was Jesus’ tomb.’ Unfortunately, many of the initial reports in the press following the symposium gave almost the exact opposite impression, stating, instead, that the conference proceedings gave credence to the identification of the Talpiot tomb with a putative family tomb of Jesus of Nazareth. As is abundantly clear from the statements to the contrary that have been issued since the symposium by many of the participants, such representations are patently false and blatantly misrepresent the spirit and scholarly content of the deliberations.”
The Duke general statement of participants (signed by M. Aviam, A. Graham Brock, F.W. Dobbs-Alsopp, C.D. Elledge, S. Gibson, R. Hachlili, A. Kloner, J. Magness, L. McDonald, E. Meyers, S. Pfann, J. Price, C. Rollston, A. Segal, C-L. Seow, J. Zias, and B. Zissu) “To conclude, we wish to protest the misrepresentation of the conference proceedings in the media, and make it clear that the majority of scholars in attendance – including all of the archaeologists and epigraphers who presented papers relating to the tomb – either reject the identification of the Talpiot tomb as belonging to Jesus’ family or find this claim highly speculative.”
About half of the participants responded. In the end, nearly all would agree that the identification of the Talpiot tomb with that of Jesus and/or his family is really little more than unfounded speculation.